Martinus describes sleep as a window or gateway to another dimension – a spiritual world beyond the physical. In this episode Mary McGovern interviews psychologist and writer Sören Grind. They take up such questions as: What is sleep? What is its purpose? Where is our consciousness when we are asleep? What are dreams? They discuss the natural contact between people in the physical world and their deceased friends and family during sleep and also provide some practical and spiritual tips for improving the quality of one’s sleep. This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern in Copenhagen, Denmark on 24th February 2019. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’ literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website. Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.